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July 08, 2011

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Gary Chow

I've been learning Italian on and off for the past 5 years. I did 3 semesters of formal study (one night a week over the course of the Uni semester) but now learn on my own by reading and watching Italian films and Tv programs. By far the hardest part is comprehending what other say to you. I find I know what to say some of the times but when the Italian speaker replies, I'm lost. Practice is the key, but here In Brisbane, Australia, it isn't easy finding a native Italian speaker, and when you do, it's likely they speak a dialect or in a corrupted way from living in Australia so long.

Madeline

@Richard so true, it's hard to unlearn mistakes after learning something the wrong way. I think the key is to try to achieve that balance where you're speaking, even imperfectly, and gradually improving -- as opposed to not speaking until a perfect grammatical sentence can leave your lips.

@Chris - totally agree! Actually I think #1, "just communicate" could also be "be determined" and your #2 is a great point related to immersing yourself in the language's culture -so important. I used the technique (if I can call it that!) I wrote about here to learn Swedish during the 20 months I lived in Stockholm and it was SO tough to get through that stage where you feel stupid. And everyone speaks English so well, it's hard not to flip into English to make everything easier isn't it. Thanks for your comments!

Richard Palumbo

MS. Jhawar makes some useful recommendations. But if you will be satisfied to go around saying "Io volere uno bicchiere de vino; noi compriamo ayer pomodore, ecc.". By all means don't study the structure of the language and please get in words from other languages. Once you learn something the wrong way, it's hard to change it. Volentieri insegnava e volentieri imparava.

chris

Hi Madeline, I can't argue with the 3 points you make. They are all valid and important stepping stones along the way to learning a new language. I grew up in UK but moved to Norway at the age of 33, and have now been here for 18 years.I had to learn the language from scratch. I think the 2 points I would add to your list that have been especially true for my experience are these: i)PERSEVERANCE - Refuse to give up during the first 6 months. All people learning a new language will go through a stage where you feel stupid and humiliated. Its the crucial stage of not having enough vocabulary and sentence construction skills to manage to articulate what you you want to say. The result is that you end up giving the impression that you are much less intelligent than you are. You feel humiliated. It's stage that probably kicks in after the initial excitement of moving to a new country starts to fade from 3rd -6th months. DON'T give up and quit at this point. You will emerge from that tunnel.
ii) Join groups in the local community from day 1. Make yourself communicate in the new language and culture. Join a church, hobby groups, evening class,anything that widens your network, gets you speaking with the locals and increases your vocabulary.

I think I can confirm the point you make about learning at a slower pace when you are older. It took me 10-12 months before I was fluent in Norwegian. But then I was 33 years old.

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